How did the richest people on the planet make their fortunes?
Im Simon Jack and Im Xing Singh join us for good bad, billionaire.
Each episode, we pick a billionaire and we find out how they made their money, like the comedian Jerry Seinfeld, the financier George Soros, the golf star Tiger woods.
Then Simon and I have a decision to make.
Do we think they are good, bad or just another billionaire?
Good bad billionaire.
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Hello and welcome to you're dead to me, the radio four comedy podcast that takes history seriously.
My name is Greg Jenner.
I'm a public historian, author and broadcaster.
And today we are whipping out our wimples and reciting our rosaries as we learn all about the scandalous 17th century nun Benedetta Carlini.
And to help us, we have two very special guests in history corner.
She's the Chester Fritz distinguished professor in English at the University of North Dakota.
She's a specialist in medieval studies, especially medieval religion, women's literature and queer theory.
And she's the author of several books.
It's professor Michelle Sauer.
Welcome, Michelle.
Thanks so much, Greg.
It's wonderful to be speaking with you today and to meet Sophie.