2023-08-29
23 分钟In this podcast episode, Katy Milkman shares how we can make our goals more achievable by making reaching them more enjoyable.
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When it comes to achieving our own personal goals, sometimes the biggest impediment is ourselves.
I'm Matt Abrahams and I teach strategic communication at Stanford Graduate School of Business.
Welcome to think fast, talk smart, the podcast today I am really excited to speak with Katie Milkman.
Katie is a professor at Wharton and co founder and co director of the Behavioral Change for Good Initiative.
She hosts the podcast choiceology and is the author of how to change the science of getting from where you are to where you want to be.
Katie and I met a little over a year ago when she was so kind to offer advice about authoring my latest book.
I'm super excited to continue our conversation here.
And Katie, welcome.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm really excited to be here.
One of the reasons I'm so excited to speak with you is that your work pulls together and synthesizes many of the topics we've discussed here.
Before we talked about habits with BJ Fogg, motivation with Suu Kyi Huang, and behavior change with Bob Cialdini.
A lot of your work focuses on how we can change and maintain attitudes and behaviors we want to adopt.
Before we get into how to do that, I'd like for you to share some of the things that get in the way of realizing these changes that we want.