478. How Can We Break Our Addiction to Contempt?

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  I have a question that I'm afraid is gonna sound rude no matter how I put it.

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  That's okay.

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  It's okay.

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  So my reading of your second to last book, the conservative heart, was that it was written to help pave the way for the right kind of republican presidential candidate in 2016, maybe a Jeb Bush type or whatnot.

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  Is that roughly right?

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  Yeah.

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  It was my entrant into the ideological sweepstakes of 2016.

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  It's debate night for the Republicans, and we're just.

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  And I lost.

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  This is a tough business to run for president.

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  Oh, no, you're a tough guy, Jeb, and it's.

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  And we need to have a leader that is, you're never going to be president.

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  Your way to the.

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  Let's see, I'm at 42 and you're at three.

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  So far, I'm doing better.

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  Doesn't matter.

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  So far, I'm doing better.

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  Right.

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  So you did lose because Trump was not the kind of republican or conservative candidate that you wanted.

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  And then in 2019, you publish a book called love your how decent people can save America from the culture of contempt.

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