2021-07-29
53 分钟Hey there.
Steven Dubner.
Hope you're enjoying the summer so far.
We are.
So much so that we are reaching into the archive this week to play you an episode we first published in the summer of 2018.
With all the extreme weather events going on this summer around the world, floods and drought fueled wildfires especially, we thought this one might be worth another listen.
It is called two totally opposite ways to save the planet.
Hope you enjoy.
At one point, I was going to call the book Toblerone for 10 billion.
That was vetoed by my editor for some reason.
Charles C.
Mann is a journalist who writes big books about the history of science.
His current interest is the modern environmental movement.
The modern environmental movement, which I would argue is the only successful ideology to emerge from the 20th century.
By the middle of the 21st century, the global population is expected to reach 10 billion.
And the question is, are we going to be be able to satisfy all their demands for food, water, energy?
Also Toblerone, because in addition to food and water and the basics, they're going to want occasional treats.
And there's one more big concern.
How are we going to deal with climate change?
Those are the big challenges.