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Kevin, it's very late here.
Why are you calling me?
Well, I just wanted to see what you had planned for the weekend.
No, we are doing an emergency podcast because, Casey, some very big news just happened.
That's right, my red hard fork phone that I keep next to my bed is ringing and it says, there's big news today.
Just a few hours ago, in a surprise move, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman was pushed out of the company.
He was effectively fired by the company's board.
This move was a total shock to everyone in the tech industry and was especially shocking to us because on Wednesday of this week, you and I both sat down for a very long, very wide ranging interview with none other than Sam Altman.
We did.
And looking back, I wish I just asked him, hey, do you think you're about to get fired?
Yeah, that was not one of the questions we asked him, shockingly.
And to be frank, like, it didn't seem like he had any idea this was coming.
We were talking to him on what was essentially the one year anniversary of chat GPT.
We asked him a lot of questions about OpenAI and chat GPT and the future he saw for artificial intelligence.