Listen to the latest Criminal Plus bonus episode completely for free. Phoebe and Lauren hit record on the drive to visit a 100-year-old Liberal Arts Club in Tarboro, North Carolina. You’ll also hear Phoebe’s presentation to the club about the history of Criminal, and how she thinks about the stories we tell. If you’re not a Criminal Plus member and you like what you hear, become a member at thisiscriminal.com/plus or in your Apple Podcasts feed. You'll also get ad-free episodes! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
All right, there we go.
We're in business.
Hi, Phoebe.
Please don't put that close.
Welcome to Criminal plus.
I'm Phoebe Judge.
I'm Lauren Spoer, and we are on 64 east in North Carolina.
We're actually passing the exit for the Nash correctional Facility.
Lauren and I were there, I don't know, about ten months ago, doing a story about Philip Smith, Phil Smith, and his newspaper, the Nash News, which is a newspaper created in prison.
And so we went to interview Phil Smith at the Nash Correctional Facility, and we're driving past it right now.
And Phil just wrote me, like, a month ago to say that they finally were able to listen to the episode.
They had to wait months and months and months before the prison administration played it for them.
And he said in an email, like, I hope I have the opportunity to hear it a second time.
And I was really.
I had never thought about that before, that maybe he would only get to hear it once.
So here we are, coming to you.
We're doing this episode of Criminal plus.
From the road, from my car.
And to make it even more exciting, the tire pressure light is on on the back right tire.
So.