A Rare Look at the Psychedelic Underground | Rachel Harris, PhD

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  I was just ecstatic.

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  I mean, it was wonderful.

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  As soon as I got back to civilization, I emailed all my friends.

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  I said, you know, we have to come back down here.

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  We all have to come.

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  They're all experienced with psychedelics, but I said, but we're all getting old.

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  This was my sales pitch to my friends.

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  I said, my joints have been lubricated, you know, like the Tin man and the wizard of Oz.

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  I said, this is the fountain of youth.

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  I felt so much more alive and flexible and certainly physically more alive and flexible.

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  But also I didn't realize that there was a heaviness that I was holding with my father's death and that this lightened and opened it in a way that has stayed with me.

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  This is almost 20 years ago this happened, and it's very alive in me and it shifted my whole relationship to death and dying.

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  So psychedelics have become a popular topic of conversation with people, not just exploring consciousness and deepening relationships, but also those researching and exploring how these different substances might impact everything from anxiety to depression to PTSD and beyond.

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  Still, there is so much hype out there.

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  Weve talked to some leading researchers in the past, like Adam Ghazalie at UCSF, and actually we have an episode in the works with a leading voice from the practitioner side and the science based side whos helping push forward policy and legislation.

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  But today we're taking a look at another side of this world, what's become known as the psychedelic underground.

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  So my guest today is Rachel Harris, PhD, author of the book swimming in the wisdom from the Psychedelic Underground.

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  Now, Rachel is a psychologist who spent over 40 years in private practice and ten more in academia, publishing research studies.

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  But this powerful ayahuasca journey in 2005, it set her on an entirely different course, one that led her to intimately understand the world of psychedelic guides and shamanic traditions and brought her back to some of the work that she had done in Esalen all the way back in the sixties and seventies.

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  Now, in our conversation, Rachel shares just remarkable stories from her own experiences, as well as stories from the women elders that she interviewed who had been guiding others on the psychedelic journeys for decades.

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