She Was 17, He Was 47: How #MeToo Changed A Marriage

她 17 岁,他 47 岁:#MeToo 如何改变婚姻

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2024-07-10

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Jill Ciment met her husband in the 1970s when she was a teenager and he was almost 50. At the time of their first kiss, he was a married father of two; she was his art student. In her memoir Consent she reconsiders the origin story of their marriage. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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  • Jim and Pam, Janine and Gregory, Carmee and Sydney, Meredith and McDreany.

  • You know how it goes.

  • Two television characters, obvious chemistry, and you know deep down that there's only one will they or won't they get together?

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  • When a 47 year old man has a sexual relationship with a 17 year old girl who is his art student, can you call the relationship consensual?

  • Even if she thinks she's madly in love with him?

  • What if he leaves his wife and two children to marry the student?

  • What if they stay married until his death at the age of 93?

  • That former 17 year old is my guest, Jill Cement.

  • She's now an established novelist and memoirist, recipient of a National Endowment for the Arts fellowship and a Guggenheim Fellowship, and a professor emeritus at the University of Florida in Gainesville.

  • The questions I just asked are among the many questions she asked herself in her new memoir, Consent.

  • Its in part a reflection and critique of her previous memoir, Half a Life, which was published in the mid 1990s when she was in her mid forties.

  • In Half a life, she described herself as the aggressor, the one who initiated the first kiss and started the relationship.

  • But in her new memoir, Consent, she confesses it was her future husband, Arnold Meshies, who started it.

  • He looked down her blouse, said he wished she were older and kissed her.

  • Their relationship started in 1970.

  • She wonders, having seriously reflected on the hash metoo movement, if that has rewritten the story of her marriage and whether the story's ending can excuse its beginning.