'Best of Dave Chang Show': The Glory of Complicated, Simple, Crazy, Beautiful, Stupid Art (and Life), With Jerry Saltz

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  Welcome to the Dave Chang show, part of the Ringer podcast Network, presented by major dummy Media.

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  Thank you Allotengo.

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  As always, I'm back again with the best of.

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  This is part two with our Jerry Saltz interviews.

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  Again, the first best of was Jerry Saltz when it came to our podcast in 2019.

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  This one is from December 2022, when he was on tour promoting art, his life, his anthology of essays and reviews that he's done over the years.

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  Icons and iconoclasts, visionaries and vigilantes and flashes of hope in the night by the Pulitzer Prize winning critic Jerry Saltz.

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  And if you listen to this podcast, we do plenty of callbacks to Jerry, somebody we love very much.

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  And again, we will get you some new podcasts soon.

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  I can't tell you exactly when, but we are working diligently on really changing things up, as we've mentioned over the years and very grateful for your patience.

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  We are busy doing dinner time live and a bunch of other tv projects, but this podcast is central to what we do.

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  And we just wanted to update everything, something we never got to do when the world shut down in 2020.

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  And we've made plenty of pivots along the way.

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  And we want this to be a long lasting sort of pivot as we move forward.

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  So before we get into the interview with Jerry Saltz, wanted to give you some musings and some ramblings.

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  Number one, New York Times a couple weeks ago had an article about pizza being awesome in America and it didn't give enough of a nod to Chris Bianco.

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  Again, I'm biased.

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  He's one of my closest friends and there are other great pizza makers for sure.

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  But Chris isn't just a pizza maker.

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  He's just a great chef.

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