Two pivotal recordings are revealed: Cary Hartmann's police interview about Sheree Warren and a secret interrogation of Cary’s brother, Jack Hartmann. Investigator Shane Minor looks for the missing piece he needs before he can arrest Cary.
This season of the cold podcast includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder, and domestic violence.
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Investigator Shane Minor was on a road trip, driving from the city of Ogden toward a small town in southeastern Utah to talk with Kerry Hartmande about the suspected murder of Shuri Warren.
Hes potentially a suspect and youve not been able to interview him?
No.
Nope.
It was October 26, 2000.
520 years had passed since the evening when Cherie Warren disappeared.
Sri went missing in 1985.
Shane had had the cold case since 1998.
Hed learned a lot about Kerry Hartman in those years, but I didnt really.
Know nothing about Cherie Warren.
I ran into this same problem when I started looking into this case.
Its frustrating there are so few people willing to share their memories of Cherie.
When I started looking into this, it was difficult just because of all the years that had gone past, some of.
The people ive reached out to have told me privately they wont talk on the record because they are afraid of Kerry Hartman.
Shane Minor believed to crack the case, he would have to find Cherie Warrens remains.
But experience told him Carrie wasnt likely to give up that location if Carrie had, in fact killed Cherie.
Shane and another detective had tried to question Carrey about Shuri once before, in 1988, after Carys rape conviction.
He wouldnt talk to us, walked in the room, see when we were sitting there, turned around, walked out.