2024-08-13
35 分钟TED audio collective this whole idea of how to think about prejudice is that that's what we're doing all the time, is we are scanning our environment to understand, you know, is this okay to say here?
Will this get a laugh?
Will this, you know, be approved?
Hey, everyone, it's Adam Grant.
Welcome back to rethinking my podcast on the science of what makes us tick.
With the Ted audio collective.
I'm an organizational psychologist, and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.
My guest today is Betsy Levy Palak.
She's a social psychologist at Princeton and one of the world's preeminent experts on fighting prejudice.
Betsy's won a MacArthur genius grant for her groundbreaking experiments on promoting reconciliation in post genocide Rwanda and on reducing bullying in schools.
I want to change the thing that's going to change your behavior.
I want to change the thing that is going to reduce discrimination, that is, people acting differently toward one another.
Get ready to rethink your understanding of how to fight bias.
Betsy's work highlights an approach that's more effective than trying to change individuals and faster and more feasible than trying to change cultures.
Hey, Betsy.
Hi, Adam.
What a joy to meet you.
Same.
Were you the student in the front row who always got an a?
Because the prep work you did was next level.