2024-04-23
32 分钟Kara Swisher made her name by being disarmingly direct with the who’s who of tech – from Steve Jobs to Bill Gates to Elon Musk. So why doesn’t she like the phrase “speak truth to power?” The journalist, author, and host of the popular podcasts Pivot and On joins Adam to discuss her history of assertiveness and her strategies for challenging authority. Then, they dive into Silicon Valley’s favorite status symbols, the difference between being demanding and being demeaning, and the future of technology and accountability. Kara’s latest book, Burn Book: A Tech Love Story, is out now. Transcripts for ReThinking are available at go.ted.com/RWAGscripts
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Hey, everyone, it's Adam grant.
Welcome back to rethinking my podcast on the science of what makes us tick with the Ted audio collective.
I'm an organizational psychologist, and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.
My guest today is kara swisher.
She's widely considered the most influential and most feared journalist in tech.
I know from experience, having been grilled on her podcasts on and pivot.
I try to, like, be straightforward with people.
Like, when I'm coming at them, I think that helps, which is why people come back.
This time, I got to ask the questions.
She came to the authors at Wharton series for a live discussion of her new book, burn a Tech Love Story.
Kara swisher, welcome to Wharton.
All right, first thing I wanna say is you remind me of both of my grandfathers.
Oh, wow.
Okay, we're gonna go there.
Okay.