Why is talking about money and class so awkward?!

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  Ted audio collective.

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  You'Re listening to how to be a better human.

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  I'm your host, Chris Duffy.

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  I'm gonna be honest with you.

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  I am nervous about this episode.

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  I'm nervous because we're talking about a topic that feels very intimate and personal, but it's also a topic that I don't feel like I have very much practice talking about or even hearing other people talk about publicly.

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  And that's class and money.

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  I once read a study where respondents said that they would rather have people see nude photos of them online than their bank account information.

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  And I'm not sure that I agree with them.

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  I'm not sure which one I'd prefer to have leaked.

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  But I have to say I do understand that it's a tough call because how much money we make and have and what we spend, ooh, that is a lot to think about putting out there publicly for everyone to see.

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  The fact that this topic and these conversations are a little awkward and messy and uncomfortable, that's exactly why I am so glad that we have Jonathan Menhivar on the show with us today.

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  Jonathan is a public radio producer and he's the host of the podcast classy, which unpacks these issues really thoughtfully and compellingly.

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  Here's a clip from Jonathan's show.

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  So many of us have this class anxiety that we're letting munch on our insides like a little parasite.

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  And it's not just former working class kids like me.

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  Discomfort goes in all kinds of different directions.

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  So many of us, rich, poor, working class, middle class, we're looking at the people around us and either wanting more or feeling bad about what we already have.

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  And that icky feeling, it gets us in trouble.

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  It puts us in awkward spots, makes us do things we normally wouldn't do.

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