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Project Unabom

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2022-08-01

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Decades after Ted Kaczynski was caught, we wrestle with a question that still hangs in the air: Was Ted a prophet or simply a murderer who terrorized a nation and killed three people?  Project Unabom is an Apple Original podcast, produced by Pineapple Street Studios. Listen and follow on Apple Podcasts.  https://apple.co/Project_Unabom

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  • A quick heads up before we get started.

  • This episode contains a mention of suicide.

  • Please take care while listening.

  • Three days after Ted Kaczynski was taken into custody, Kathy Puckett arrived at the ten by twelve cabin up in the hills off Stemple Pass Road.

  • Agents from the evidence team were there, moving in and out.

  • Kathy stepped inside.

  • He had a bunk to the right that had an army green army blanket on it.

  • There was a wood burning stove in one corner, next to a chair that looked homemade.

  • And the wall, the plywood wall that it was butted up to, there were images of his body and his body grease and things from, you know, I mean, he rarely washed.

  • And so there were outlines of where he had sat for years against that wall and different outlines of his body.

  • When FBI agents first stepped into the cabin, they found shelves filled with dry goods and bomb making materials.

  • There were guides to edible wild plants and literary books like Joseph Conrad's novel the Secret Agent, which is about a professor who quits academia, then launches an anti science bombing campaign.

  • One of Teds rifles, a 300 six, hung on the wall above his bed with a detailed note he'd written about how to properly calibrate the sighting.

  • An old timey string instrument called a zither hung nearby on a nail.

  • There were a couple of jackets, too, including a faded and tattered blue hoodie.

  • The first thing I thought was, he never saw us coming or he would have gotten rid of this stuff.

  • There was a big box of wood of firewood at the foot of his bed that actually turned out to be steps that went up to a loft, which, full of evidence.

  • I don't know if you've ever helped a relative move after they've been living somewhere for 30 years and they're kind of a hoarder.

  • There are layers and layers and layers of life that have just accumulated there.

  • But I thought, 25 years he's been in here, you know, I was just.