Bonus: Amanda and The Other Liz

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  Houston Methodist leading medicine.

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  It's been nearly 200 days since Elizabeth Holmes was convicted on four counts of criminal fraud and a couple weeks since her former boyfriend and COO Sonny Balwani was also found guilty in his case on twelve counts.

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  As they await sentencing later this fall, were back with something a little different, a conversation with two brilliant talents who are crucial to creating the Hulu limited series the Dropout, based on this podcast, now nominated for six Emmys, Amanda Seyfried, whos nominated for outstanding lead actress in a limited or anthology series or movie for her portrayal of Elizabeth Holmes.

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  If it doesn't scare me, there's really no point.

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  I think because I choose the things that will be complicated, I get very, very afraid that I'm not going to be able to do it at all.

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  And the show's creator and showrunner, Liz Meriwether, nominated for outstanding writing for a limited or anthology series or movie.

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  There's this mix of fear and excitement and just a thing that's gnawing at you where you're like, I can't get this out of my head.

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  What drew these women to Elizabeth Holmes?

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  What scared them the most when they set out to tell this story?

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  And what was the toughest part of getting it right?

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  From ABC audio, this is the dropout.

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  I'm Rebecca Jarvis.

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  Bonus, Amanda.

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  And the other Liz.

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  Amanda, congratulations on your nomination for outstanding lead actress.

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  And welcome.

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  Thanks.

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