2024-07-19
14 分钟Chinese hackers are stepping up their game, according to Nigel Inkster, the former director of operations for Britain’s MI6. In an encore episode of Mic Drop, he says Chinese hackers are taking on a new swagger in cyberspace and borrowing things from a familiar playbook: a Russian one.
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The click here team is taking a break from producing brand new episodes this month so we can pull together some new reporting that we're really excited to share with you in August.
In the meantime, we've decided to have some encore performances of some of your favorite mic drops of the year.
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Our guest today is someone who's been a China watcher for some time.
I'm Nigel Inkster.
I'm senior advisor on China and cyber at the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
The IISS is a leading security think tank in London.
But it's really Nigel's previous job that makes him such an interesting China watcher.
Nigel was director of operations for Mi Six, Britains Intelligence Service, yes, that branch of the british intelligence service.
And for three decades, Nigels specialty at Mi Six was China.
He lived through the chaotic Mao Zedong era, the crackdown on Tiananmen Square, the handover of Hong Kong from british to chinese rule.
And these days hes been focusing on the middle Kingdoms cyber operations.
And theyve been pretty aggressive recently.
I think now China is not particularly concerned with the reputational implications of doing what its been doing.
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Heres mic drop, an extended cut of an interview we think you might want to hear a little more of.
And today were talking to Nigel ingster about Chinas cyber operations and how theyre changing.
What we saw in the past was pretty sloppy tradecraft, quite honestly.
They are getting sicker and more sophisticated.