Champagne. Neapolitan pizza. Now döner kebabs?

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  NPR.

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  Darian woods.

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  Good to see you.

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  Willa Rubin, planet money producer.

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  Now, where in the world are you?

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  I am in Berlin for a fellowship, and I want to take you on a little field trip to a place at the center of a new battle over regulation and competition.

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  We are going to a doner kebab shop in Berlin.

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  Okay.

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  Doner kebabs.

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  You know, those sandwiches that have minced or sliced meat?

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  Not my thing personally as a vegetarian, but they are delicious for the people who eat them.

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  I have seen vegan doner kebabs for what it's worth.

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  Okay.

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  But yeah, donor Kebs.

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  They originally come from Turkey, and they are super popular all around Europe, including here in Germany.

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  People here spend almost two and a half billion euros on them every year, according to an industry estimate.

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  On the other day, I met Arif Kellish, owner of his ar fresh food in Schonaburg.

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  He showed me around the kitchen.

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  There's a workstation where bread is being grilled.

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  There's a section for sauces, another for salads.

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