2024-10-16
49 分钟Subscribe to Pluralist Points on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts Musa al-Gharbi is a sociologist and assistant professor at Stony Brook University whose research explores how people think about, talk about, and produce shared knowledge about race, inequality, social movements, extremism, policing, and other social phenomena. His new book, We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite, examines the rise and fall of wokeness among America’s elites and explores the underlying social forces at play. Tyler and Musa explore the rise and fall of the "Great Awokening" and more, including how elite overproduction fuels social movements, why wokeness tends to fizzle out, whether future waves of wokeness will ratchet up in intensity, why neuroticism seems to be higher on the political Left, how a great awokening would manifest in a Muslim society, Black Muslims and the Nation of Islam, why Musa left Catholicism, who the greatest sociologist of Islam is, Muslim immigration and assimilation in Europe, and more. Read a full transcript enhanced with helpful links, or watch the full video. Recorded September 19th, 2024. Other ways to connect Follow us on X and Instagram Follow Tyler on X Follow Musa on X Sign up for our newsletter Join our Discord Email us: cowenconvos@mercatus.gmu.edu Learn more about Conversations with Tyler and other Mercatus Center podcasts here.
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hello everyone, and welcome back to conversations with Tyler.
Today I'm happy to be chatting with Musa Algarby.
He is a sociologist, an assistant professor at Stony Book, already a very well known public intellectual, and October 8 is the publication date for his new and excellent book, we have never been woke the cultural contradictions of a new elite.
I'm very happy to have blurbed it.
Musa, welcome.
Thank you so much for being here.
And thank you so much for your kind words on the book.
I'm sure you've been thinking about this question, but how much is the distribution of wokeness amongst the elites, as we saw maybe three or four years ago?
Is that something sociologically necessary, or was that extremely contingent and dependent on a whole host of factors ranging from zero interest rate policy to the rise of Trump, Covid and other matters?
Are we out of that moment already?
I have published an essay where I argued the great awokening does seem to be winding down in the book.