177. Mic Drop: NSA’s David Luber on Russia, China and the power of partnerships

177. Mic Drop:美国国家安全局的 David Luber 谈俄罗斯、中国以及伙伴关系的力量

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2024-10-25

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We talk to the NSA’s Director of Cybersecurity, David Luber, about Ukraine, adversaries in cyberspace, and the importance of partnerships.
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  • From Recorded Future News, this is click here's mic drop.

  • About a month before the 2024 elections, I was on stage with the relatively new Director of cybersecurity over at the National Security Agency, David Luber.

  • He's a bit of a fixture in cybersecurity circles.

  • He was deputy at the Cybersecurity Directorate.

  • Before he took that top job, he was Executive Director at Cyber Command.

  • He worked cyber and space issues in Colorado, and we interviewed him at Recorded Future's Predict conference in dc.

  • Recorded Future News is an editorially independent arm of Recorded Future, and we wanted the director to talk to us about this relatively simple thing.

  • So what are the threats that kind of keep you up at night?

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  • A few months before the Russian invasion in 2022, a contingent of cyber operators from US Cyber Command quietly flew to Ukraine on a secret mission.

  • They came to help Ukraine find any malware Russia might have dropped on their critical networks ahead of the war.

  • U.S.

  • cyber Command does these kinds of missions all over the world, all the time.

  • They're called Hunt Forward Operations.