Kathleen Hanna (Rebel Girl) and Justin talk about her upbringing in the 80s in the Pacific Northwest, her experiences in the punk scene and what it took to write her memoir, "Rebel Girl: My Life as a Feminist Punk." Listen to Life is Short on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to all episodes ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ on the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/justin-long now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Oh, hey, look, Mike Mugg says Green Day.
They were kind of a punk band.
Speaking of punks, I was introduced to punks.
The first time I became aware of punks and the punk aesthetic was when we were kids.
Because they were always characters in movies around that time, like Muppet movies and the Police Academy movies that were.
A lot of the bad guys were like, they had chains and mohawks.
And Sid and Nancy came out around then.
So I was exposed to that type of look in the 80s, but I never really knew a punk.
I was never friends with a punk until I went to college, a very progressive liberal arts college in upstate New York.
And I made a friend with a punk.
His name was Stewart, and he was incredibly bright.
I mean, Stewart was so.
He was tall and gangly and he had the whole uniform, you know, the patches and he had the chains.
And he had a huge.
I mean, it was a really tall, probably like 2 foot tall Mohawk.
Maybe a foot and a half.
A slight exaggeration.
Is it okay?
It seems like even 12 inches is outrageous.
I think it was maybe 12 inches.