180. Mic Drop Exclusive: Gen. Nakasone says reports about influence campaigns are ‘a sign of success’

180. Mic Drop 独家报道:中曾根将军表示,有关影响力活动的报道是“成功的标志”

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2024-11-05

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We sit down one-on-one with Retired General Paul Nakasone, the man who dreamed up the US response to the latest iteration of foreign election chicanery. He explains why he’s so confident the 2024 vote will be safe and secure.
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  • I'm so not used to having headphones on, so let's just start with a really easy one.

  • Could you introduce yourself to us, please?

  • Hi, Dina.

  • I'm Paul Nakasone.

  • I was the former commander of U.S.

  • cyber Command and the director of the National Security Agency.

  • Excellent.

  • Okay.

  • I think people might recognize the name.

  • I'm Dina Temple Raston and this is Click Here's Mic Drop, an extended cut of an interview we think you'd like to hear more of.

  • We had a rare one on one with General Nakasone last week to talk about all things cyber and intelligence, and in particular, we asked him about the 2024 elections.

  • We're hearing so much in this cycle about Russian influence operations and Chinese hacks that you'd think adversaries are winning the day.

  • But Nakasone says it's just the opposite.

  • What's different this year is that when we see it, we say something about it.

  • Stay with us.

  • Hey, I'm Joseph Cox, the host of another podcast I think you'll like the 404 Media Podcast.

  • We're an independent news outlet covering the bleeding edge of technology.

  • And every week we discuss our latest stories.

  • Whether that's how AI images are taking over Facebook and fooling people, how drugs are being sold on Instagram, or the spread of AI enabled surveillance cameras.

  • We hold tech to account.