“There is a system that is a sustainable new business model in which health becomes the determinant,” says Jeffrey Bland, PhD. “Not just production per unit acre.” Bland, who is known as the father of functional medicine, joins host Elise Loehnen for a wide-ranging conversation on how long-defended systems (in medicine and elsewhere) have failed and how we can make them work and make them just. He also explains why we’re not hardwired and how our environment influences the way our genes are expressed. He talks about the importance of regenerative agriculture (and an interesting plant, named Himalayan Tartary buckwheat). Bland calls himself an optimist; he reminds us that we have the power to throw out old models and create new, better ones: “Miracles are out there, and they can be duplicated if we ask the right questions.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices