China’s push for deep-sea dominance

Georgina Godwin is joined by Ed Conway, author of ‘Material World: A Substantial Story of Our Past and Future’ to discuss how the battle for the top job at the International Seabed Authority could shape policy and affect global supply chains. Plus: nuclear tensions as Russia, China and Iran push back against what they perceive to be a system that only works for Western states. And: an Olympics architecture-and-design round-up. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.