We're back for season 4 with Caroline Kepnes, the bestselling author of YOU, to talk about the book that made her lock herself into an ice-cream shop. The Thorn Birds by Colleen McCullough is a sweeping inter-generational epic that focuses on a love triangle between an old woman, a little girl and a Catholic priest. We talk about destiny in romance literature, Bunny McDougall, the horrors of Australia, forbidden love, disappointing sex scenes, s****y babies and how little we care about Justine. Produced by Caroline O'Donoghue, mixed by Hannah Varrall, music by Harry Harris. recorded at Acast studios, London. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.