Shon Faye on Elliot Page & trans in pop culture – Pop Culture with Chanté Joseph

Shon Faye 谈艾略特·佩吉和流行文化中的跨性别者 – 与 Chanté Joseph 合作的流行文化

Pop Culture with Chanté Joseph

社会与文化

2023-06-29

32 分钟
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The writer and presenter talks to Chanté about her Q&A with Elliot Page and how trans people have been represented in pop culture

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  • This is the Guardian.

  • This week, a special episode talking to Sean Fay about Elliot Page's memoir and how trans people are represented in pop culture.

  • And I know a man pretending to be a woman when I see one.

  • Somewhere along the way, I feel like femininity conquered me.

  • Trans, cis, straight, queer, you know, know we're all pushed to be in a tiny box.

  • You're listening to pop Culture with me, Shantae Joseph for the Guardian.

  • Everyone has been talking about Elliot Page's groundbreaking coming of age memoir, Page Boy.

  • Elliot is one of the biggest celebrities to have transitioned whilst in the public eye and this new book doesn't hold back, but it made me think about the representation of trans people in pop culture and how much that has changed.

  • This week we're speaking to Sean Fay, a writer, podcaster and aspiring comedian and someone that I look up to so, so much.

  • I have an audience that have primarily encountered me through my book and I know that they don't know that I'm funny because it's not like it's not a LOL a minute.

  • Sean hosted a special Q and A with Elliot at the South bank center, but we started by talking about her own book, the Transgender An Argument for Justice.

  • The book's central argument is that the conversation that everyone will have been noticing, I think everyone listening will have been noticing about trans people.

  • And it's actually only gotten more intense since the book came out.

  • Whether it's what's being put to politicians on radio interviews or whatever, where they're like, what is a woman?

  • The headlines and headlines and headlines about trans people, the constant discussion on tv, radio, et cetera, that all of that is literally nothing to do with the actual challenges and struggles that trans people face.

  • That when people talk about trans issues in the media, they tend to actually not be talking about trans people's issues at all.

  • They tend to be talking about CIS people, the majority's anxieties.

  • And so my book is like, look, everything that you're learning from the media is incorrect.

  • And actually what we gloss over is that trans people are still a marginalized and oppressed group in the UK today.

  • It's actually getting worse in some respects, even as they're becoming more visible.