2024-11-08
23 分钟Hear Donald Trump’s former secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, in conversation with Ukrainecast back in May. He discusses what his old boss really thinks about Ukraine, and what another Trump presidency could mean for the war. He also talks about whether he’d take another top job in the White House - something which, in recent days, he’s been widely tipped to get. Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Sara Wadeson. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480 You can join the Ukrainecast discussion on Newscast’s Discord server here: tinyurl.com/ukrainecastdiscord
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It's 989 days since Russia began its full scale invasion of Ukraine.
Back in May, we spoke to Donald Trump's former Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, about what his old boss really thinks about Ukraine and what another Trump presidency could mean for the war.
President Elect Trump's transition team is already vetting potential candidates who could serve in his administration when he returns to the White House in January.
And Mike Pompeo has been tipped as a top contender for the role of Defense Secretary.
Here's our conversation with Mike Pompeo back in May.
Former CIA director, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, thank you very much for being with us on UkraineCast.
Welcome Victoria Vitaly, it's great to be with you both this morning.
Welcome to UkraineCast.
We're going to start with somebody you know better than any of us.
It's a big election issue in the States.
It's also important for Ukraine and the rest of the world.
Tell us, Mike, what does Donald Trump really think, do you say the US should do about the war in Ukraine?
Well, President Trump and I think agree that what Ukraine should do is win.
And my frustration with President Biden and the Western support To date now 2 years and 4 months on or so is that we haven't provided the resources to win, but rather only to permit it to drag on in ways that we see today.
Right.
This battle in Kharkiv is serious.
This is a serious push by the Russian military that the Ukrainians will have to muster every capability they have to avert towns being taken in and around Kharkiv.
I think President Trump was very clear.