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Hey, Gabe, how you doing?
Welcome.
I'm talking to Gabriel Wrench, a media personality and activist in Idaho.
Most people call him Gabe.
Okay, great.
Gabe has a lot of ideas about how America should change.
You said it would probably take a long time, but that you would like to see only Christians be able to run for office.
So if you're Jewish, if you're Muslim, if you're atheist, certainly if I had you right, you said that, yes.
You would support eventually them not being allowed to run for office.
That's correct.
I did say that because Gabe is.
A proud Christian nationalist.
I think that the Christian faith is the ideal moral doctrine and principles for a thriving society.
And the farther you get away from that, the more in chaos we descend.
And so the only way to maintain that, or one of the ways to maintain that, is you have to have people who are running for office who believe that or you're going to get back into that chaotic decline.
So I'll tell you straight up, as a Jewish American, I hear that that I can't run for office.
Other non Christians can't.
And I have to admit, it's a little terrifying to me because to me, that means a fundamental freedom of mine in this theoretical world gone.