Befriending your impostor syndrome with Iceland's president Halla Tómasdóttir

与冰岛总统哈拉·托马斯多蒂尔(Halla Tomasdóttir)成为你的冒充者综合症的朋友

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2024-12-17

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When Halla Tómasdóttir lost her bid for the Icelandic presidency in 2016, she wasn't sure she wanted to run again. But after battles with self-doubt, encouragement from her supporters and an epiphany about leadership, she ran again this year — and this time, she won. Halla joins Adam to discuss dealing with impostor syndrome, why leadership is worth the effort and how listening and asking questions can build trust with constituents and make you a stronger leader. The two also dig into the story behind Halla's "scarf revolution," Iceland's history of solving problems with creativity and Halla’s approach to leading her campaign — and presidency — with optimism.  Available transcripts for ReThinking can be found at go.ted.com/RWAGscripts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • I don't meet many people who don't want to live in a healthy environment, in healthy communities, in a peaceful world, in a world where you can provide for your loved ones, where you can, you know, rely on healthcare, rely on being able to educate your children if they choose to, et cetera.

  • Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant.

  • Welcome back to Rethinking my podcast on the science of what makes us tick with the TED Audio Collective.

  • I'm an organizational psychologist and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

  • My guest today is Hadla Thomasdader, the president of Iceland.

  • Earlier in her career she co founded Reykjavik University and an investment firm that she led successfully through the financial crisis.

  • Then she was the CEO of the B Team, a non profit that brings business and civic leaders together to make business better for people and the planet.

  • Hadla ran for president in 2016 and lost.

  • And this year she wasn't sure if she wanted to run again.

  • Leadership ultimately comes down to asking yourself the question, who am I not to offer myself up to do something?

  • Having known Hadla for a decade, I've been consistently impressed with her character and her commitment to public service.

  • I'm excited to dig into those topics with her today.

  • Hello, my favorite professor.

  • Hello my favorite president.

  • So glad to have you here.

  • Hadla, welcome.

  • Thank you.

  • It's really my pleasure.

  • Well, this has been a long time coming.

  • I want to take you back to the first moment that someone encouraged you to run for the presidency.