Warning: this episode contains strong language and audio of war. When the long legal saga of Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, came to an end this summer, it marked the first time that the U.S. government had convicted anyone for publishing classified material. Charlie Savage, who covers national security and legal policy for The Times, discusses what the conviction means for journalism and government accountability in a world where publishing state secrets can now be treated as a crime. Guest: Charlie Savage, a national security and legal policy correspondent for The New York Times.
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From the New York Times, I'm Natalie Kitrowev, and this is the daily.
When the long legal saga of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange came to an end this summer, it marked the first time that the us government had convicted anyone for publishing classified material.
In the weeks since, my colleague Charlie Savage has been thinking about what that conviction means for journalism and government accountability in a world where publishing state secrets can now be treated as a crime.
It's Thursday, August 1.
Charlie, Julian Assange, once a household name, really faded from public view over the last few years, and then he roared right back into it with a guilty plea a few weeks ago.
You've covered him this entire time.
How were you thinking about him and his legacy when that guilty plea came down?
So Julian Assange is one of the most interesting people of our times, and his saga is an extraordinarily complex and twisting one.
Who he is or was.