Most people are not good leaders, so why does the current working climate encourage folks who may be better suited as subject-matter experts & practitioners to move into leadership roles for which they may not be a good fit? Margo & Tashira sound off on their experiences in leadership positions, their experiences with how mediocrity can indeed, flow to the top, and why we probably shouldn't be encouraging folks into leadership positions if it isn't something they are really interested in pursuing (outside of the financial compensation that often goes hand in hand with leadership positions.) We then move on to a discussion of some of the wonderful things we get to do as, "nasty women" or how VP nominee J.D. Vance might describe some of us as: "childless cat ladies." We will also discuss Martha-Ann Alito's obsession with communicating via flags, and more! Thank you to our sponsor for this episode, M.M. LaFleur, make sure to check out their offerings at https://mmlafleur.com/ Use our Discount Code JUSTUS20 at M.M. LaFluer for 20% off Your Purchase. *Please note that this episode was recorded prior to Kamala Harris earning the 2024 Democratic Nomination for PResident Buy our new "Big Age" T-Shirt here: https://www.justuspodcast.com/product/big-age-tshirt Sign up for our newsletter, here: https://justuspod.myflodesk.com/subscribe Please consider supporting the justUS Podcast by joining our paid community, or by becoming a sustaining member with a $5/mo contribution. Join the Paid Community: Join the justUS League here, https://justus-podcast.mn.co/share/M7gfRuILYNz8-D46?utm_source=manual Become a Sustaining Member: Support justUs for $5/mo: https://www.justuspodcast.com/product/support-tier-1 Get your justUS swag here: https://www.justuspodcast.com/#in-feed-shop Follow Us on Instagram: @justus_pod @margo.lindauer @politicsandfshn Please visit these friends of the podcast. By using these links we earn a small affiliate commission/referral fee, which helps us continue delivering you great content! If you are unable to join our paid community or sponsors us for $5/mo, using these links when you shop help us out a great deal! MM Lafleur: https://mmlafleur.com Use code: Justus20 for 20% off! JUJ: livewithjuj.com Use code: JUSTUSPOD10 OSEA: https://oseamalibu.com Use code: JUSTUS10 to save 10% Quinn Parfums Candles https://quinnparfums.com Use code: JustUS for 15% Cloth & Paper https://www.clothandpaper.com Use code: JUSTUS for %15 off Get convenient and affordable therapy with Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/justuspodcast