Look, peace to Beyonce and the hit single that had us all feel affirmed out here but... the rich and famous don't just wake up like this. There are teams, and work, and lots of money that go into making and branding the constellation of stars we see on our TV screens. On this episode, Ryan and Sterling discuss how the building of celebrity can affect self-esteem and your private life, how their eldest taught them a big lesson about stardom they'll never forget and what success as public figures really means to them. We Don't Always Agree is an Indian Meadows Production in partnership with ABF Creative. We Don’t Always Agree is recorded at the Blackbird House Flagship in Culver City, California. To learn more about Blackbird House visit: www.blackbird.house. Follow them: https://www.instagram.com/the.blackbird.house/. Music provided by King Sis: Close to Heaven: Epidemic Sound.