When I talked to Charlotte holdman, she'd spent 35 years working with defense teams on death penalty cases, including some very high profile cases.
But she hadn't given an interview to the press in decades, ever since an incident where she had a few drinks with a reporter and said some things she was unhappy to see in print.
It was so embarrassing.
And I thought, well, I either have to quit drinking or quit doing interviews.
And I wasn't ready to quit drinking yet.
So I quit doing interviews.
So this interview is a very rare event for me.
I haven't done any kind of interviews with the media since 85.
And you are ending the moratorium in this one instance for this story.
Why?
Well, a fluffy red combed leghorn deserves his moment in the sun.
I mean, just the image.
And I'm not talking about any chicken.
I'm talking about, you can just picture this beautiful leghorn, his tail perked up and that red comb sitting at kind of a rakish angle on his head and his head kind of cocked to the side and he looks at you with his little eyes.
That's what this story is about.
That is not just what this story is about.
That is what a lot of today's radio show is about.
Back in the early days of our radio show, once a year, during the highest poultry consumption time in the country, which is of course, if you think about this for a second, you can guess the answer to this.
It's the weeks that begin with Thanksgiving and go through Christmas and New Year's.
Anyway, during that period, for years on our show, we had a tradition here.