We ain't afraid of no Ghostty! (Interview)

我们不怕幽灵! (面试)

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

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2024-12-19

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Mitchell Hashimoto joins the show to discuss Ghostty, the newest terminal in town. Mitchell co-founded HashiCorp, took it all the way to IPO, exited in 2023—and now he's working on a terminal emulator called Ghostty. Ghostty is set to 1.0 this month, so we sat down to talk through all the details.

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  • Foreign.

  • Is the last interview show of the year and it's a good one for those who are new.

  • We feature the hackers, the leaders, and those reinventing the terminal.

  • Yes, today we're joined by Mitchell Hashimoto.

  • Mitchell co founded Hashicorp, took it all the way to IPO, exited in 2023, and now he's working on a terminal emulator called Ghosty.

  • Ghosty is set to 1.0 this month, so sit down with him and talk through all the details.

  • A very big thank you to our friends and our partners over at Fly.

  • Yes, Fly is the home of Change Law.com.

  • it is the public cloud for developers like us, like you, who ship.

  • And you can learn more at Fly IO.

  • Okay, let's Ghosty.

  • What's up, nerds?

  • I'm here with Kurt Mackey, co founder and CEO of Fly.

  • You know, we love Fly.

  • So, Kurt, I want to talk to you about the magic of the cloud.

  • You have thoughts on this, right?

  • Right.

  • I think it's valuable to understand the magic behind the cloud because you can build better features for users.

  • Basically, if you understand that, you can do a lot of stuff, particularly now that people are doing LLM stuff, but you can do a lot of stuff if you get that and can be creative with it.

  • So when you say clouds aren't magic because you're building a public cloud for developers and you go on to explain exactly how it works, what does that mean to you?