Filmmaker and writer Miranda July, whose novel All Fours is on many best books of the year lists, and was described in the New York Times as "the year's literary conversation piece." July spoke with Terry Gross about issues in the novel, like separating from a spouse you're growing distant from, perimenopause, and having an affair. And jazz historian Kevin Whitehead reviews a newly released recording of a concert he attended in 1978, by pianist Sun Ra and his Arkestra. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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My guest, Miranda July was a bit afraid of what people would think of her after publishing her second novel, All Fours.
The book is partly about sexuality and has some very explicit sexual scenes, but that's true of many books.
Her larger fear was the theme of a woman reaching midlife and entering perimenopause, the time in a woman's life when she's transitioning into menopause and is experiencing some of the many symptoms associated with that time of life.
For her main character, it's the fear of losing her libido, dealing with mysterious moods and anxiety, and the thought of being seen as an old woman.
But the book has gotten the opposite reaction.
She feared.
It's on many of this year's 10 best lists, including the New York Times, in which it was described as this year's literary conversation piece, and in the New Yorker, where it was described as a study of crisis, the crisis of Being How Middle Age Changes Sex, marriage and ambition.
July's moving, very funny book is at once buoyant about the possibilities of starting over and clear eyed about its costs.
When our critic John Powers reviewed it, he said, I gasped in surprise at All Fours.
Miranda July's hilariously unpredictable novel All Fours is sometimes described as a book about perimenopause, the transitional stage before menopause.
Yet this flattens it into sociology and self help.
July's mind is far too unruly and interesting for that.
John goes on to describe the book as perverse, unrepentant, sometimes dirty and often laugh out loud funny.
All4's story revolves around a 45 year old woman, a slightly famous artist, writer and performer, who decides to take a break from the routines she's stuck in and drive from her home in LA to New York.
Her husband thinks it's a good idea and even suggests the best route for the drive.
But about 30 minutes away from home, she stops at a gas station and feels this electric connection to a young man there, and he seems to feel it too.