Do I seem like an anti mindfulness person?
Too crotchety to be mindful?
Because all the mindfulness people are, like, so nice.
I'm Angela
Duckworth.
And I'm Stephen Dubner.
I'm a psychologist at Penn, and I run
an educational nonprofit called Character Lab.
You also wrote the book
Grit?
Yes, and I am a writer and I host a podcast called Freakonomics
Radio.
And you wrote the book Freakonomics?
Among quite a few others.
I
did.
And you and I became friends.
We did.
And we discovered that
both of us really like to ask each other question only