Fire Ecology (WILDFIRES & INDIGENOUS FIRE MANAGEMENT) Mega Encore with Gavin Jones & Amy Christianson

火灾生态学(野火和本土火灾管理)加文·琼斯和艾米·克里斯蒂安森的 Mega Encore

Ologies with Alie Ward

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2025-01-10

2 小时 36 分钟
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As wildfires burn across L.A. — and my neighborhood evacuates — we thought it would be a good time to encore these Fire Ecology episodes so I can literally catch my breath. First Dr. Gavin Jones brings the heat talking about what fire is, how hot it burns, fire trends, tinderboxes, lots and lots of forest fire flim-flam, tolerant wombats, Angelina Jolie Movies, cunning pine cones, thick bark, Indigenous fire stewardship and more. After the break, co-host of the podcast Good Fire Dr. Amy Christianson talks about how cultural burns and prescribed blazes can create healthy forests. She also discusses Indigenous history, collaborations between Western science & First Nations elders, Aboriginal thoughts on cultural burns, more flim-flam, evacuations, snowmelt, hunting strategies, land stewardship, happy trees, climate strategies, and the social science behind wildfire education. Also learning from Native wildfire fighters. Huge thanks to her and Matt Kristoff -- who also hosts the Your Forest Podcast -- for allowing us to use excerpts from their interview to launch Good Fire. Subscribe to both podcasts to get more ecological knowledge in your ears. CDC Advisory on Wildfire Smoke Follow Dr. Gavin Jones on X Follow Dr. Amy Christianson on X Donations were made to The Common Good Community Foundation and Indigenous Residential School Survivors Listen to the “Good Fire” podcast Also great: Your Forest podcast Other episodes you may like: Dendrology (TREES), Forest Entomology (CREEPY CRAWLIES), Xylology (LUMBER), Pyrotechnology (CAMPFIRES) Sponsors of Ologies Transcripts and bleeped episodes Smologies (short, classroom-safe) episodes Become a patron of Ologies for as little as a buck a month OlogiesMerch.com has hats, shirts, masks, totes! Follow @Ologies on Twitter and Instagram Follow @AlieWard on Twitter and Instagram Editing by Mercedes Maitland of Maitland Audio Productions and Jarrett Sleeper of MindJam Media and Mark David Christenson Transcripts by Emily White of The Wordary Website by Kelly R. Dwyer Theme song by Nick Thorburn
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  • Oh hey, it's your cousin 3,000 miles away checking in to see if your house is on fire alley ward.

  • Except in this case I'm the cousin's cousin and everyone is texting me to ask if my house is on fire and it is covered in cinders and it's raining down ashes and we're about a mile or so as the crow flies or as the embers drift from the evacuation line of the wildfire that's raging in LA right now, the Eden Fire near Pasadena.

  • And this week I've been in Las Vegas the last few days on a business trip and I've been like up all night, feverishly refreshing the Watchduty app for updates on the fire spread.

  • Meanwhile, my husband Jarrett, your podmother, has been like packing up our passports and our birth certificates and our baby who's a 12 year old dog and he's been staying with friends here and there until the winds died down a little bit.

  • But we're back home and most of our neighbors on our street have evacuated.

  • The air is very heavy with smoke from like a thousand or so homes a few miles away that were lost in Altadena.

  • I haven't slept much at all the last couple days and the winds are picking back up tonight and at press time there's zero percent containment on the nearby to US Eaton fire.

  • And then the Pacific Palisades fire is barely contained and it's growing and fires are starting and smoldering all over la.

  • I have a nasty smoke headache and so I'm giving you this very relevant encore while I catch my breath about how fires start, why they're getting worse, and how indigenous knowledge and fire management differs from what we have going on right now.

  • And then at the end, there's a very relevant 2025 secret about something that has made me cry several times today, which is very spooky.

  • Okay, here we go.

  • The CDC has a bunch of recommendations about dealing with the smoke, which we'll link in the show notes for this episode.

  • But in case you can't stay indoor, hopefully with an air filter running, we thought we'd highlight what the CDC has to say about masks.

  • Quote, don't rely on dust masks for protection.

  • Paper comfort or dust masks commonly found at hardware stores, trap large particles such as sawdust.

  • But these masks will not protect you or your lungs from smoke.

  • So an N95 mask, properly worn, will offer some protection.

  • So bust out those N95s if you are somewhere with smoke right now.

  • Also speaking of health, another reason why I'm running this mega episode is I've been dealing with some health stuff and I will talk about it in this mega secret at the end of this mega episode.

  • If you care if you make it all the way there.