Why North Korean soldiers prefer suicide to Ukrainian capture

为什么朝鲜士兵宁愿自杀也不愿被乌克兰俘虏

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2025-01-14

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As Ukraine takes its first North Korean prisoners of war, South Korea is claiming many are killing themselves on the battlefield - under orders to do so - rather than be taken alive. But if these soldiers are so dispensable how can they have such an impact on the war? And are the reports even true? The Times' Asia Editor, Richard Lloyd-Parry, analyses what we can and can't believe. The World in 10 is the Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security. Expert analysis of war, diplomatic relations and cyber security from The Times' foreign correspondents and military specialists.  Watch more Read more Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Welcome to the world in 10 in an increasingly uncertain world.

  • This is the Times daily podcast dedicated to global security.

  • I'm Toby Gillis, joined today by Alex Dibble.

  • The mystery surrounding North Korea's involvement in Russia's war with Ukraine is easing, with more details emerging.

  • If reports from South Korea are To be believed, 3,000 of an initial 11,000 North Korean fighters have now either died or been badly injured, and their fighting capability is rudimentary at best, with no understanding of how modern warfare works.

  • There are also claims that they've been told to kill themselves rather than be captured alive.

  • So how far can we trust these reports?

  • And if there is scant regard for their lives, how much of an impact can they even have on the war?

  • Our guest today is the Times is Asia editor Richard Lloyd Parry.

  • Richard, how is South Korea gleaning this intelligence?

  • Well, that's a very good question.

  • The origins and the quality of this information are not entirely clear.

  • We know members of the South Korean intelligence agency are in Ukraine helping the Ukrainians monitor the North Korean engagement with Russia and to interrogate these North Korean captives.

  • The three so far, one died and two more in the last few days have been displayed in videos and have survived.

  • So the Ukrainians and the South Koreans are working together.

  • One assumes that this information comes from Ukraine, from Ukrainian intelligence, from observations made on the battlefield.

  • But how accurate it is or how reliable it is is another question.

  • I mean, the Ukrainians, for example, have come up with rather specific figures that 300 North Koreans have been killed and 2,700 wounded.

  • How exactly they know that is unclear.