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Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.
I'm Dory Shafrier.
And I'm Elise Hu.
And we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
And I'm glad we have this show to talk about taking care of ourselves and one another.
This year has already been a hell of a year and we're only a few weeks in.
Yeah, I know, I know.
It's kind of cool.
Boy, oh boy.
You know, I saw, I saw something that Dr.
Pooja Lakshman posted.
She's the author of Real Self Care.
Right.
It's like Beyond Crystals and Bubble Baths.
Yeah, she was on the show, I think.
Right.
Maybe right before you started.
Anyway, she posted something on Instagram that said if your self care requires constant willpower, then it's faux self care.
Oh.