2025-02-06
1 小时 27 分钟Foreign Santo.
And you're listening to the Changelog, where each and every week we have conversations with the hackers, the leaders and the innovators of the software world.
We pick their brains, we learn from their mistakes, we get inspired by their accomplishments, and we have a lot of fun along the way.
Today we are joined by Barret Hubert.
After over 30 years in the software industry, Barrett has experienced a lot.
He founded Power DNS, published articles for places like IETF and ieee, and built his own Parliament monitoring system that just scratches the surface.
But recently Bert wrote about what it takes to build software for the long term.
We dig in.
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Okay, Barrett, who bear on the Changelog.
Let's do this.
Well, friends, before the show, I'm here with my good friend David Shue over at Retool.
Now, David, I've known about Retool for a very long time.
You've been working with us for many, many years.
And speaking of many, many years, Bre is one of your oldest customers.
You've been in business almost seven years.
I think they've been a customer of yours for almost all those seven years, to my knowledge.
But share the story.