Sabato de Sarno leaves Gucci and the UK takes a lead on Ukraine

We get the latest from Monocle’s fashion director, Natalie Theodosi, as Kering parts ways with Gucci’s design chief, Sabato de Sarno, after a short two-year tenure. Then our panellists Marion Messmer and Caroline Frost discuss why the UK is taking a lead on Ukraine’s defence strategy as the US steps back. Then: we discuss why Lisbon’s city council has instructed its transport authority to create separate queues for tourists and residents. Plus: after an Italian doctor sneaks his cat into a hospital for a treatment, we consider how far we’d go for our pets. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.