How to stop being weird about money (w/ Paco de Leon)

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  You're listening to how to Be a Better Human.

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  I'm your host, Chris Duffy.

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  Today on the show, we're talking about money.

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  And for me,

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  one of the most surprising elements of doing comedy and writing has been how much I've had to think about my finances.

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  Money management is not my passion, and yet if I don't put in the time and effort to handle it correctly,

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  I won't get to do the things that I actually am passionate about.

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  I would never have guessed that the key to being able to tell jokes is

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  that you also need to know how to categorize your expenses and track your receipts.

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  I could never have predicted that.

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  At the same time,

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  there's something really interesting to me about the fact that there are no universal answers about how you're supposed to approach money.

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  Everybody is just figuring this out on their own for themselves,

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  whether they're a struggling artist or whether they are a wildly successful entrepreneur.

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  Whether you're a person working a stable corporate job or someone who cobbles together two

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  or three different sources of income to make ends meet.

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  Today's guest, Paco De Leon, is a money expert, but not just any money expert.

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  Paco is a finance person who is also an artist.

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  So this is someone who not only sees the system from both sides,

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  but also thinks deeply about our complicated, sometimes fraught relationship with money.

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