For all the parents listening, I bet you remember this moment.
You have this tiny new creature in your life.
You feel vulnerable.
The new baby seems extra vulnerable.
And one of the first things you have to do
to this tiny creature is let the doctor inject into her small amounts of disease.
But you almost certainly have to do it for a kid to go to school,
which makes vaccines a very real way that people feel the presence of the state in their lives.
And so vaccines turn out to be a very excellent way to examine this moment we've landed in,
where people who deeply mistrust the government are suddenly in charge of critical parts of it.
I'm Hanna Rosen, this is Radio Atlantic.
And today we're gonna talk about vaccines.
More specifically,
the anti vaxxers who Trump has nominated to run our health institutions
and how they might change our world.
One critical dividing line between the two parties.
Right now, maybe the critical dividing line is trust in expertise and authority in institutions.
And this showdown, which in the coming administration will play out over lots of arenas.
The military, education, intelligence.
It's been brewing in the vaccine world for years, maybe centuries.