How (Not) to Change Someone's Mind

如何(不)改变他人的想法

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2024-09-17

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When do fact-checks work? And when do they backfire and cause someone to dig in? Yamil Velez, a political scientist at Columbia University, set up an experiment using chatbots and found that people can change their mind, even on deeply held beliefs. Except under one condition: when the chatbot is rude. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/podsub. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Fact checks are a big part of election season.

  • What's worth fact checking?

  • What's the best way to fact check?

  • These are editorial decisions that media organizations encounter all the time.

  • In 2010, a political science paper came out that made people worry.

  • It suggested fact checks might actually make people dig in their heels.

  • What if telling people they're wrong makes them double down rather than change their minds?

  • For years after these findings rocked the world of political science and media,

  • other researchers tried to replicate them to little success.

  • My name's Jerusalem Dempsis.

  • I'm a staff writer here at the Atlantic.

  • And this is good on paper, a policy show that questions what we really know about the world.

  • One strain of conventional wisdom seems to treat fact checks as either worthless or worse than that,

  • actively harmful.

  • My guest today offers some hope and some evidence that even in polarized times,

  • people are open to new ideas.

  • Yamile Velez is a political scientist at Columbia University.

  • And in a new paper published in the American Political Science Review,

  • he and his co author, Patrick Liu find that persuasion is possible even on deeply held beliefs.

  • Yamile, welcome to the show.