Welcome to the world in 10 in an increasingly uncertain world.
This is the Times daily podcast dedicated to global security today with me,
Tom Noonan and Alex Dibble.
The Munich security conference has begun,
with the US and its NATO allies pulling in seemingly different directions
and officials already scrambling to keep up.
Before meeting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, the US Vice President,
JD Vance suggested
that contrary to the suggestions of Donald Trump and and indeed the US Secretary of Defense,
Pete Hegseth, there is actually a world in which American troops are deployed to Ukraine.
Meanwhile,
Downing street says the UK Prime Minister Zakir Starmer has told Volodymyr Zelensky
that Ukraine's path to NATO membership is still irreversible.
That's contrary to what Trump and Hegseth has said over the last few days.
So what is going on in Munich?
The Times defence editor, Larissa Brown is at the conference and is our guest today.
Larissa, it looks a bit chaotic.
It sounds a bit chaotic.
Can you tell us what is actually going on?
It is complete confusion