2025-02-19
1 小时 12 分钟Oh, hey, it's yesterday's medication in your jeans pocket.
Oops.
Alie Ward, let's stab ourselves with information from a porcupine's business end.
We have a good one.
What a chat.
I remember getting off this interview and being like, this is.
This is why I make the show.
You're in for a treat.
Okay, so we've got an associate professor from San Luis Obispo's California Polytechnic State University, Cal Poly, who teaches courses like Introduction to Wildlife Conservation and administration.
They studied ecology, evolution and environmental biology at Columbia University.
They headed a UC Berkeley for a master's and PhD in environmental science policy and management.
Bonus, they specialize in rodents.
What does that have to do with porcupines?
Everything.
Porcupines are rodents.
What?
Yep.
Big, beautiful, barbed, rat like creatures and we love them.
Thank you also to Sarah listener Berman.
To listener Sarah Berman who suggested this ologist singing their praises of their porcupine enthusiasm.