Macron, Starmer & Trump: Ukraine’s fate at stake

马克龙、斯塔默与特朗普:乌克兰的命运悬于一线

World in 10

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2025-02-25

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European leaders mark three years since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, but the absence of top US officials fuels fears that Europe may have to go it alone. As Macron and Starmer travel to Washington to sway Donald Trump, Germany’s next leader hints at a shift in transatlantic relations. Peter Conradi, Europe editor of The Sunday Times, provides expert analysis. The World in 10 is the Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security. Expert analysis of war, diplomatic relations and cyber security from The Times' foreign correspondents and military specialists.  Watch more: www.youtube.com/@ListenToTimesRadio  Read more: www.thetimes.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Welcome to the world in 10 in an increasingly uncertain world.

  • This is the Times daily podcast dedicated to global security Today with me,

  • Alex Dibble and Stuart Willey.

  • With European leaders gathered

  • in Kyiv to mark the third anniversary of Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine,

  • the absence of top US Officials has heightened fears

  • that Europe may have to shoulder the burden of supporting Ukraine alone.

  • The French president

  • and British Prime Minister meet with Donald Trump in Washington this week to press their cases.

  • But now Germany's incoming leader has made one of the most striking comments yet

  • on whether Europe can rely on the US in future.

  • Our guest today is Peter Conradi, the Europe editor for the Sunday Times.

  • Peter, many European leaders have been, well, surprised by Mr. Trump's shift on Ukraine.

  • Could you talk us through the frenzied diplomatic activity happening on this side of the Atlantic?

  • Yeah, I think surprised is a bit of an understatement.

  • Shocked, completely taken aback by horrified, I think will be a more accurate description.

  • The basic message is

  • that Donald Trump is very keen to do a deal with Vladimir Putin over Ukraine to end the war.

  • He doesn't really intend to consult the Ukrainians.

  • He certainly doesn't intend to consult the Europeans.