Trump meets Starmer - 'Special Relationship' in the balance

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  Welcome to the world in 10 in an increasingly uncertain world.

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  This is the Times daily podcast dedicated to global security today with me, Toby Gillis.

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  And I'm joined by Alex Dibble.

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  On the day the UK Prime Minister Sakir Starmer visits the White House,

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  there could hardly be more on the line.

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  Delicate talks about the future of Ukraine await, as does America's commitment to NATO,

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  the threat of tariffs on Republican British and European trade,

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  the Middle East, China and defence spending.

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  However,

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  Mr. Starmer chooses to approach Donald Trump regarding each subject

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  about which they disagree to a significant level.

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  He will also be mindful not to damage the historic so called special relationship

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  between the two nations.

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  But with the US President's increasingly isolationist ideology, is it even still worth fighting for?

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  Our guest today is Edward Lucas,

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  European and transatlantic security consultants

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  and Times columnist Edward an easy question to ask first,

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  perhaps a harder one to answer.

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  How do we define the special relationship?

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  The special relationship is one of those comforting diplomatic fictions,

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