How did the richest people on the planet make their fortunes?
I'm Simon.
Jack.
And I'm Zing Singh.
Join us for Good Bad Billionaire.
Each episode we pick a billionaire and we find out how they made their.
Money, like the comedian Jerry Seinfeld, the financier George Soros, the golf star Tiger Woods.
Then Simon and I have a decision to make.
Do we think they are good, bad or just another billionaire?
Good, bad billionaire.
Listen on BBC Sounds.
It's 5am, I'm heading out east, out of London with my producer Lucy, toward a sort of watery sunrise, past the chicken shops and foxes rootling through rubbish.
And we're going to meet a guy at a service station just on the motorway.
The man has a bat package for me and the package itself is a source of some anxiety for me.
I mean, it's already caused a bit of an argument between me and Diane and my wife, but I also think this package is going to answer some big questions, questions that all of us need to ask.
From BBC Radio 4, this is Fed with me, Chris Van Tulleken.
I'm investigating the forces that shape what we eat and what that means for all of us.
If the service station was open, I think it would feel all a little bit less weird.
But why are we all gathered here before 6 in the morning?
I'm currently standing outside an empty service station at dawn on the M25 and frankly, I'm a bit out of my comfort zone.