Do you think of yourself as grown up?
In terms of the responsibilities I have, yes.
Because I go to bed early because I know I have to get up at 5 to take care of my kid.
But there are environments in which this, like, switch goes off in my brain.
When the Brat album came out last year,
I listened to it before going out one night and it just shut something off in my brain.
And I was like, I'm in my 20s again.
Yeah, brat can do that.
I'm Yasmin Tayag, a staff writer with the Atlantic.
And I'm Natalie Brennan, producer at the Atlantic.
We've been thinking a lot about aging and how it's different today than it was in the past.
In the early 1800s, knowing somebody's specific age would be today,
like somehow randomly knowing your neighbor's blood type, it just wasn't a thing.
But today, everybody's become so age obsessed.
What's really going on here in this pursuit for longevity?
It's about this optimization,
and it causes people to be less supportive of public health interventions
because it really is about you,
you, you, you, the responsibilities on you.
And if you're not doing it, you're failing.