Update from Davos: Can industrial policy really work? With Beata Javorcik

达沃斯最新消息:产业政策真的能行得通吗?——访谈贝亚塔·贾沃里克

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2025-01-24

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Sam Fleming is the FT’s Economics Editor, and this week he is reporting from the World Economic Forum at Davos, where much of the talk is about protectionism and industrial policy. Today on the show, Sam speaks to Beata Javorcik, the chief economist of the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development. They discuss the history of industrial policy -- and what it takes to get it right. Subscribe to The Economics show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Hello and welcome to the Economics Show.

  • I'm Sam Fleming, the FT's economics editor.

  • Today I'm joining you from the snowy.

  • Peaks of Davos and I'm sitting in.

  • The FT's temporary outpost in the Swiss.

  • Resort known as FT House.

  • We are here for the annual World Economic Forum jamboree.

  • Fully conscious that the world's attention this week is full firmly elsewhere,

  • namely on Washington D.C. where Donald Trump was inaugurated in sub zero conditions on Monday.

  • But many of the economic themes raised by his second presidency are firmly up for debate here in Davos this week.

  • And I want to home in on one of them,

  • the rise of state capitalism and economic nationalism with my guest, the economist Beata Jarvocyk.

  • Beata is the chief economist of the European bank for Reconstruction and Development,

  • which is a London based lender owned by a panoply of governments around the world,

  • including the us, uk, Japan, China and indeed Switzerland.

  • Born in Poland, Beata is a professor at Oxford,

  • former official at the World bank and a specialist in international trade.

  • Beata, welcome to the show.

  • Hello Sam.

  • So, a brief bit of history.